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Re: Rogue One (first Star Wars standalone)

Posted: 08 Apr 2016, 11:19
by Anon. E. Moose
Kinky Kel wrote:I thought many Bothans died to bring them that information though?
That was the second Death Star.

Re: Rogue One (first Star Wars standalone)

Posted: 08 Apr 2016, 12:47
by Kinky Kel
Was it? I thought it was the first one. It's been a while since I've watched 4, 5 and 6.

Re: Rogue One (first Star Wars standalone)

Posted: 08 Apr 2016, 13:18
by Mugsy
That was Death Star 2 plans that Manny Bothams died for ;)

I can't remember which plans Kyle Katarn help steal. Sucks that it's no longer cannon.

Re: Rogue One (first Star Wars standalone)

Posted: 08 Apr 2016, 14:10
by Ralph Wiggum
Mugsy wrote:That was Death Star 2 plans that Manny Bothams died for ;)

I can't remember which plans Kyle Katarn help steal. Sucks that it's no longer cannon.
Kyle Katarn steals the first Death Star plans.

Re: Rogue One (first Star Wars standalone)

Posted: 08 Apr 2016, 14:45
by jambo
Ralph Wiggum wrote:Kyle Katarn steals the first Death Star plans.
Not.

Canon.

Re: Rogue One (first Star Wars standalone)

Posted: 08 Apr 2016, 15:35
by Ralph Wiggum
jambo wrote:
Ralph Wiggum wrote:Kyle Katarn steals the first Death Star plans.
Not.

Canon.
To quote a certain nerf-herder:

"I know."

I was answering Mugsy's question, hence the quote :)

Re: Rogue One (first Star Wars standalone)

Posted: 08 Apr 2016, 18:03
by Mugsy
Disco wrote:I'm also concerned that I'm going to get burned out on them over the next few years like I have with superhero movies
Yeah, with the extreme hype that came with Ep7, getting that every year for the next 4-5yrs may just burn me out with Star Wars.

Re: Rogue One (first Star Wars standalone)

Posted: 08 Apr 2016, 21:08
by Ralph Wiggum
As long as they do it right, I'm okay with that. The story lines (for now) are not directly interlinked, provide a different perspective and have huge potential. No different to all the comic book movies (namely MCU) being pumped out.

Re: Rogue One (first Star Wars standalone)

Posted: 09 Apr 2016, 08:40
by Dexterians
That trailer was amazing. I'm excited for it.
Will be interesting to see how this direction of pumping Star Wars goes for Disney...


...that Darth Maul april fools trailer though... why can't it be real?

Re: Rogue One (first Star Wars standalone)

Posted: 10 Apr 2016, 08:15
by Mugsy
OK, we get it!...



So it's a pre-sequel.

Re: Rogue One (first Star Wars standalone)

Posted: 10 Apr 2016, 13:13
by Dexterians
That video is broke... but where does it fit in the timeline then?

Before 4? Inbetween 4 and 5?

Yeah, wouldnt a prequel technically mean that it's set before 1?? haha.

Re: Rogue One (first Star Wars standalone)

Posted: 11 Apr 2016, 06:05
by Mugsy
Hmmm, video needs to be viewed on Youtube directly so it seems.

Rogue One is set between Ep 3 and 4.

IGN seems to be pumping out a lot decent fake trailers lately...


Re: Rogue One (first Star Wars standalone)

Posted: 13 Apr 2016, 21:22
by Disruptor4
I'm interested to know who the characters are. I wonder if the lead is going to be (are we still doing spoilers for TFA???)
Rey's parent(s)?
Though I do wish/hope Kyle Katarn was/is in this... I'm still attached to the old knowledge OKAY!?

Re: Rogue One (first Star Wars standalone)

Posted: 13 Apr 2016, 21:24
by kharis
sorry Disruptor4
the above spoiler has been nullified https://www.yahoo.com/movies/star-wars- ... 09168.html

Re: Rogue One (first Star Wars standalone)

Posted: 13 Apr 2016, 22:27
by phylum
Just because it's not the main woman doesn't mean there won't be some setup for Rey's parents in this movie though.

Specifically for the people who believe in an Obi-Wan relation, this movie might give us something.

I hope it isn't a huge thing though. If the next movie ends in a big family reveal then it's going to feel cheap and dissatisfying, because that's just what Empire did. (I'm similarly worried that the ultimate climax of the story will be Kylo's redemption and death.) Families are important to Star Wars, we get it. Kylo Ren is and will continue to be a great example of that. The things I didn't like in Ep7 can generally be tied back to the MYSTERY that they were spinning around Rey's origins, too.

Re: Rogue One (first Star Wars standalone)

Posted: 13 Apr 2016, 23:34
by Mythor
Kenobi had no children. You only have to look at what happened with Anakin and Padme and the life Kenobi was living by the time of A New Hope, not to mention the Jedi code. If they crowbar a family into his life I will be very disappointed.

Far more likely she's a clone, given the saberdart she was scratching out a calendar with.
Aaaaaaanyway. I am keen to find out. Hope it's revealed in a more interesting fashion than Kylo Ren's parentage.

Rogue One's a prequel, no matter what the garbage Funny or Die video says. I hope there's some ties to A New Hope - like explaining why R2 had the older plans, and how they came to be in Leia's possession - but I'd rather they save Rey's story for movies she's in, not preempt the reveal in a "standalone". If they're going to do separate movies in the same universe they really need to stand on their own to some degree.

Re: Rogue One (first Star Wars standalone)

Posted: 14 Apr 2016, 15:22
by phylum
Oh I really don't think she is a Kenobi. It was just an example I guess. Isn't Star Wars just going to become like Marvel now though? Flogging the dead horse for a new movie every year, stupid references between every different sub-franchise...

Maybe I'm too cynical.

Re: Rogue One (first Star Wars standalone)

Posted: 15 Apr 2016, 19:48
by Nekosan
phylum wrote:Oh I really don't think she is a Kenobi. It was just an example I guess. Isn't Star Wars just going to become like Marvel now though? Flogging the dead horse for a new movie every year, stupid references between every different sub-franchise...

Maybe I'm too cynical.

No see these are the parts of the story everyone always wanted to see... where Marvel is just shitting out movies and series with any character with any hope of appealing to a special interest group. Who the fuck really wanted Jessica Jones & Black Panther or an Ant Man movie?

Marvel make some weird ass choices. :crazy:

Re: Rogue One (first Star Wars standalone)

Posted: 16 Apr 2016, 01:13
by phylum
Jessica Jones was well put together mostly, they just made some really strange choices in the second half of the series and didn't seem to get their own point in the end. Either way, it was good fun and one of the better shows I've seen lately. I'm completely bored of Marvel at this point and I really enjoyed it, so that has to mean something.
Nekosan wrote: No see these are the parts of the story everyone always wanted to see...
Is this really something everyone has wanted to see? I can't say I've ever thought about it. Extended universes are a dangerous thing, and the OT doesn't really give you much to go on. Now some people did amazing things with the old Star Wars EU, but I can't say I ever cared who stole the Death Star plans watching the OT. It's a story about a dude who learns about himself, and his family. He learns to control his emotion, to believe in something bigger, and his continued stand against The Baddies in the face of death sparks his father to redeem himself and save the day. The Death Star drove the plot of the original movie, but all we need to know is that it's there and what it represents.

Re: Rogue One (first Star Wars standalone)

Posted: 18 Apr 2016, 10:20
by jambo
Nekosan wrote:No see these are the parts of the story everyone always wanted to see... where Marvel is just shitting out movies and series with any character with any hope of appealing to a special interest group. Who the fuck really wanted Jessica Jones & Black Panther or an Ant Man movie?

Marvel make some weird ass choices. :crazy:
Ant-Man was pretty damn well received, same with Jessica Jones. I loved Ant-Man, felt like Paul Rudd was perfect for the role.

And I think it's great that a non white character is getting a solo film. Sounds like he is also the best part of the new Captain America film, along with Spider-Man.

Marvel's "werid ass choices" sure are bringing in a fuck tonne of money.

Re: Rogue One (first Star Wars standalone)

Posted: 18 Apr 2016, 14:15
by Mugsy
Not to mention some great talent like Michael Douglas and David Tennant.

I am finding the movies and shows that I didn't ask for to be the ones that are really impressing me.

Re: Rogue One (first Star Wars standalone)

Posted: 18 Apr 2016, 18:22
by Ralph Wiggum
Remember when Disney bought Lucasfilm and the complainers all said Star Wars would turn to shit? Well surprise surprise The Force Awakens didn't turn out to be balls. And Rogue One looks pretty damn good so far.

Interestingly enough Disney also own Marvel Studios. The same ones pumping out the MCU movies that mostly seem to get pretty good reviews. Word is Civil War is getting rave reviews. I don't watch the TV shows but I hear they're decently received at the very least.

So if Disney keep playing the game right, I feel like Star Wars is on the right track. Like I said, one movie a year is bearable if they're decent.

We feel like Marvel is pumping out the movies, which is true in that this year we will have Deadpool, Civil War and Xmen and Dr Strange. 20th Century Fox however owns the movie rights to Deadpool and Xmen so Marvel has limited control over their release plans. Fox was also responsible for the last shit Marvel movie, Fantastic Four.

Tldr: Marvel Studios and MCU good. Star Wars good.

Re: Rogue One (first Star Wars standalone)

Posted: 18 Apr 2016, 20:12
by Mythor
Fox has Deadpool because of the X-Men license, I believe, though Deadpool's in the MCU while X-Men is a separate universe. It's all very confusing.

I was concerned when Lucas sold Star Wars to Disney, because as much as the prequel trilogy wasn't great it was still all coming from the creator. The Force Awakens has alleviated that concern a great deal, since it's clear everyone involved treated the project with the respect it deserved. Rogue One looks like it will continue and add to the series, just remains to be seen if they can pull it off.

Re: Rogue One (first Star Wars standalone)

Posted: 18 Apr 2016, 20:23
by Anon. E. Moose
Mythor wrote:though Deadpool's in the MCU while X-Men is a separate universe. It's all very confusing.
Deadpool is part of the Sonys X-Men universe, and with Cable being in Deadpool 2, I'd wager that the events of Apocalypse will influence the plot of DP2.

Re: Rogue One (first Star Wars standalone)

Posted: 19 Apr 2016, 09:40
by jambo
Deadpool and X-men are Fox. Deadpool is definitely not in the MCU.

Spider-Man was Sony, but is now in the MCU thanks to a joint deal after the failure of ASM2.

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